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Tau Phoenix
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Posted - 2016.01.24 18:28:44 -
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Remember when you first joined Eve? Remember the excitment of learning a new game? Remember playing with different ship fittings, getting it wrong and often failing and learning the hard way? Remember having to use what little you had to earn the next ship and how good it felt once you trained the necessary skills?
Well, you can soon say good buy to all that waiting with insta-play. Just get your credit card out.
Want to join that Big Alliance but don't have the SP? No problem, Just get your credit card out.
Need a couple of emergency Cyno alts instantly? No problem, Just get your credit card out.
Seriously, this is the message that new players will see and may even feel pressured to buy SP.
If the sand box isn't big enough just get the credit card out and buy more sand.
The only way a new player will be able to afford this sold 'SP' will be by credit card. Buy PLEX, sell PLEX & buy SP. The only other player type who could afford this with in game earnt ISK are veterens who want to redistribute their SP into new chars.
CCP state this is to give new chars a boost in the game but true new players (not new alts) will only be able to do this buy buying and selling plex for real cash to be able to afford the SP on the market. So yes, it could assist new player but thats just masking the fact that its another avenue to earn cash. I understand you are a business and need to earn cash and make profit but this approach is questionable in my eyes purely because i don't think you have the support of the main player base.
What do we think the question was that started the SP trading discussion at CCP? Was it:
1) How can we help new players in the game?
or
2) How can we get another revenue stream in the game?
I think 2016 will be an interesting year but i am not sure in what context....time will tell. I hope Eve thrives, attracts new players and starts to grow its player base again. Personally the SP trading mechanic is not sitting well with me and making me question what else is around the microtransaction corner and whether i want to be a part of it. For now i will sit and watch and see what unfolds in the next 3 months. |
Tau Phoenix
Eternal Darkness.
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Posted - 2016.02.02 18:29:24 -
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Two things, this:
The investment of money in EVE should not give you an unfair advantage over the investment of time.
Source CCP: http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/accord-reached-at-ccps-special-summit/
then this:
Skill Trading
The new skill trading system is coming to EVE Online, allowing players to turn skillpoints into a commodity for trade on the open market. This new method of sharing training will offer unparalleled options for skill tree customization, and assist new players in their quest to rapidly get ahead in the race for dominance in New Eden.
Source CCP: http://updates.eveonline.com/date/2016-02-09/
Nothing more to say really. |
Tau Phoenix
Eternal Darkness.
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Posted - 2016.02.03 18:52:21 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Tau Phoenix wrote:The investment of money in EVE should not give you an unfair advantage over the investment of time. So, character 1 invests TIME to get a year of training and fly Falcon / Tengu / whatever. Character 2 invests MONEY to get the same damn skills trained and fly the same damn Falcon / Tengu / whatever. Where exactly is the "unfair advantage"? One invests money, the other invests time, both end up being able to use the same damn ship with the same capabilities.
Hi Memphis. I see your point at its conclusion but the way i look at this is:
Two new players join Eve online on the same day. Charatcer 1 is a rich kid. Character 2 is not.
Character 1 doesn't want to train in the traditional time sense but does not have any ISK to buy SP from the market. Of course the way he can do this is buy buying PLEX for real money, selling the PLEX for ISK on the market and therefore obtaining the ISK to buy the SP Injectors.
Character 2 can not financially afford to do this.
So, in my example does charater 1 have an unfair advantage over charater 2 due to their personal financial status? |
Tau Phoenix
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Posted - 2016.02.05 18:54:12 -
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Well, one thing is for sure. Whether you are in the 'Yes' camp or 'No' camp on this issue there is at least one good thing about Feb 9th.....
.......Pancakes.  |
Tau Phoenix
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Posted - 2016.02.06 10:22:46 -
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pajedas wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:pajedas wrote:...How can CCP even consider charging real money for something that was introduced as a way of improving content?... It's not to improve content, it's to improve cashflow. +1 for calling it like ya see it. Just tired of people telling me they're doing me a favor and charging me for it. *Why should I lose SP's if I pay $ for the extractor and then inject them into another area? Should be 1:1 regardless. Say there are 100 trillion SP's total in Eve Online. Those were bought and paid for in way of subscriptions. Now they're saying those will simply be flushed down the toilet if a higher SP player uses them? Does that make sense to anyone?
I hear what you are saying but being able to redistribute SP, even just on your own char, at no % loss would destroy the game and the need for different skill areas.
Example: You fly a dread to your alliances skill and fitting requirements. Next week they change the dread flavour to another race. In your statement above the player could, at the price of paying CCP for extractors, redisrtibute the SP to another races Dread with no penalty. This mechanic would never be viable in anyway shape or form and would be abused until it hurts no more.
Also, and i have stated this many times, part of the beauty of Eve is your char sheet. Its a history of teh gaming decisions you have made through the years. No there will be the ability to manipulate this. For me this devalues your training decisions to almost nothing simply because all these decisions can be re-written simply by getting your credit card out. (Yes i accept it may not be the best finaclial decision but the fact is it now is possible..and there lies the problem). |
Tau Phoenix
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Posted - 2016.02.07 10:58:04 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Berrice Silf wrote:Now this turd is going live, remember what it said at the bottom of the original blog. Oh, and one last note on the Bazaar, it won't go anywhere for nowWhy let folks give whole toons away for a measly 2 plex when we can ream them dry on 500k packets  They say you can't polish a turd but you really can...of course, that means you just end up with a shiny turd....
No. You Can't polish a Turd! But you can roll it in Glitter . |
Tau Phoenix
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Posted - 2016.02.07 15:34:29 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Shova'k wrote:Tau Phoenix wrote:No. You Can't polish a Turd! But you can roll it in Glitter . actually you can mythbusters proved turds can be polished much like this pile of crap system :P So mythbusters proved me right, you just end up with a shiny turd :D
I stand corrected. You can polish a Turd:
http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/polishing-a-turd-minimyth/ |
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